# Level 4: Using a Counter to teach Counter Patterns

**URL:** <https://forum.code.org/t/level-4-using-a-counter-to-teach-counter-patterns/13754>\
**Category:** Unit and Lesson Discussion\
**Tags:** csd-unit-3, csd-unit-3-lesson-9\
**Created:** [January 18, 2018, 5:50am UTC](https://forum.code.org/t/level-4-using-a-counter-to-teach-counter-patterns/13754 "2018-01-18T05:50:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![koliner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@koliner](https://forum.code.org/u/koliner)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:50am UTC](https://forum.code.org/t/level-4-using-a-counter-to-teach-counter-patterns/13754/1 "2018-01-18T05:50:07Z")

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This level seems unnecessarily confusing due to the double use of the word “counter.” I’m tempted to skip it and go straight to level 5 where the counter pattern is used in a way that helps them continue working toward movement of their sprites. Am I missing something here? It is a neat puzzle but I think it would mean more to them once they understand the counter pattern.

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**Author:** ![bradleywellsashley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.code.org/bradleywellsashley/32/522_2.png) [@bradleywellsashley](https://forum.code.org/u/bradleywellsashley)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.code.org/t/level-4-using-a-counter-to-teach-counter-patterns/13754/2 "2018-01-21T20:45:24Z")

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Kristen,

Just to clarify - you are talking about Unit 3, Lesson 9, Puzzle 4 where the numbers increase at the same rate as the font size? I agree with you - I felt my students needed to see the character/sprite move and then we could swing back to show the change in font size as the counter increases. Remember - you know your students best. If you think another way of introducing and reinforcing an objective from the lesson would be best - do it and maybe use these lessons for any students that need additional supports.

Let me know if you have any other questions!  
Brad
