U1 Day 1-2: PD Discussion Topic

I think that the best way to facilitate an active discussion is to give the students open-ended questions where they have have to think and discuss among themselves. The questions should be able to have the students respond in such a thoughtful manner and have them refrain from just giving a “yes or no” answer.

I think getting students to brainstorm and share ideas with one another will lead to a beneficial in-class discussion where we all can contribute to what a computer really is!

Present the idea to students then break them into groups of 3-4. Have them brainstorm ideas together, then welcome that feedback to be shared with all students.

I definitely like the idea of breaking down discussions. Have students think about answers on their own, then in small groups, then large group share.

Different strategies work well on different days. It can be topic dependent, and even time of day. Feedback discussions are, in my opinion, are a modified Harkness method. I do like the anonymous questions, and hope to apply that. I like it for encouraging those kids that might feel intimidated (even mildly by peers who are more “expert” or comfortable with the topic. It also allows the kids who feel they are expert become more willing to ask what they think is a “dumb” questions.

The first thing I will do is to set the ground rules. When we are discussing a topic students must raise their hand to respond. I will sometimes put the classrooms in groups of 4 and they will discuss the topic in groups and then they will report out to the classroom.

I think it is important to allow the students to contribute t heir ideas first. Then, if there are ideas/concepts that do not fit the class, then the reasons why should be discussed as a class together.

I’m not used to a lot of open-ended discussion in my classes so I’ll likely be trying many approaches throughout the year. For this lesson we tried following what was modeled in the summer PD: using post-its to have the kids write down 5 things that they thought we definitely computers, 5 “maybe computers” and 5 “not computers”. We then discussed as they brought their post-its up and debated as to who agreed and disagreed and why.

After doing the “what is a computer?” group activity we modeled in PD, I plan to group the students in groups of and challenge them to think through if they could get through their day (or even get ready for school) without a computer.

I think being topical is super important. The recent Ashley Madison issue has been fertile ground for discussion about data, security, ethics. Utilizing the new Question feature in Google Classroom has also been very helpful in taking discussions to a deeper level and kind of debrief mode after our classroom discussions. I wish there was a way to have students submit comments anonymously as in the Nominal Group methodology. That way I could see who posted what but other students could not…I’m going to have to explore that idea.

Hi bajohnson

Sorry to hear that you are disappointed. The content of the PD and the curriculum both build over the course. CSP is meant to be a course that students can take without any prior knowledge of CS so the content has to match that at the beginning then grow over time. I would suggest taking a look at extension activities suggested in lessons as a way to deepen your content knowledge if you find that you want to know more about a topic.

Best

Dani

Hi Dani, thank you for taking the time to respond to my concerns. I completely understand the course is an introductory one designed to attract and expose students who are either intimidated by CS or even never been exposed. However, my main point was not the content for students, but rather the approach for teachers.

The PD makes the assumption that CS teachers do not utilize a myriad of basic pedagogical concepts such as the 3R’s (Rigor, Relevance & Relationships), the 5E’s (Engage, Explore, Explain, Elaborate, Evaluate), etc. Therefore, too much time is spent on ‘preaching to the choir’. Its not the content, but rather the delivery and follow through. As an African American male, I quite thoroughly enjoyed going through the lessons and found them to be very thoughtful, engaging, and encompassing of all cultures and genders (such as the corn rows lesson). I would recommend the material for any demographic group.

But I struggle to see how a 6-8 hour online follow up that reinforces what was already presented in the face to face sessions is beneficial. In the future, Since all of the teachers bring laptops or tablets to the face to face sessions, then it would be more efficient to do is either incorporate the online session during face to face or follow up at the end of each day.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. It was a pleasant surprise. I honestly thought no one was listening. :grinning:

Thanks so much for your feedback. We truly value hearing from teachers about their experiences and do our best to work to improve the PD accordingly. I will keep your suggestions in mind as we design future PD.

-Dani

I try to start with a topic that allows for a lot of variety in responses. Each student can focus on something they are really interested in. It gives them a change to talk about something they feel both passionate and knowledgeable about. For example, I might start with unexpected leaders and why the student admires and respects them. The responses include everything from politicians and historical figure to sports heroes, business leaders, scientists, astronauts, musicians, and more. It helps me and the class a chance to see a student’s interest, and builds their confidence speaking to their peers because they feel like experts.

I will use the discussion board capability in my online learning environment, since my course is online.

I will spend the first week creating community in the classroom and have my students work on a group project in a nonthreatening way. During the discussion I plan to have my students journal, think pair share, and final share in to the class. By having my students journal I believe I will give them time to gather their thoughts before they share with others.

I am situated in a computer lab also. My computers are arranged in a U shape. Are yours? If the students turn their chairs to face the center of the room, they could facilitate an inner and outer circle as suggested in the reading example.

I was thankful to have the three suggested ways to generate discussion in the classroom as that has never been one of my stronger points (or I just didn’t feel comfortable in that I was “doing it right”). I like the idea of have the students think for themselves first and then share with elbow partners, and then open it up for sharing with the class as a whole.

I try to create an environment where the student feels like their are no wrong answers and as we progress try to reiterate this point.

I have students look up the definition, then think about what the definition is saying and ask them what items might apply to the definition.